Interview with Hezbollah Secretary General Sayed Hassan Nasrallah on 19 August 2016
Journalist: [Israel] who has an ally such as Isis, criminals such as Isis, they must be at ease, Sayed.
Sayed Hassan Nasrallah: But they are certainly not at ease, at least they, the Israelis, are betting on Isis and all this takfiri project in the region... but in any case they know, the Israelis, the Americans, and all those who use the takfiris, that this is a project without any future. I tell you, and I also reassure everyone through this interview. This project has no future.
That is, what is it? Consider, for example, that Isis comes to present his state to people. Or the Front al-Nosra, which has the same ideology, the same books, the same fatwas, isn’t it? When it comes to present its State. Already, what do they have to do with non-Sunnis? The Shiites cannot live in the State of Isis, nor the Christians, nor the other denominations. All right. Can Sunnis live in the State of Isis? The Sunnites ?! Those who proclaim themselves the people of the Sunna and of the Consensus, as pretends to be Isis. And Isis claims that other Sunnis (who do not embrace Isis) are disbelievers. Do (Sunnis) can live in the State of Isis?
Here is their practice: cutting heads, executing for the most trivial reasons... Basically, this is not the religion of God, it is impossible for this to be the religion of God, and it is not (Prophet) Muhammad b. Abdillah’s, peace and blessing of God upon him, who was sent as a Mercy to the worlds. It is not possible, it is absolutely impossible. Basically, no human being with a human nature, a minimum of aspiration to freedom, space, a little dignity, can live within the Isis State.
Well then, what is the future of this project? Kill, kill, kill, kill ... In the end, the killings must stop. Certainly, a great catastrophe has been launched, and the Islamic Community is currently paying a huge price...
Journalist: Excuse me a moment, Sayed...
Sayed Hassan Nasrallah: Please.
Journalist: Certainly it has no future, for even those who created him know that it has no future. But perhaps they wanted to drain the Resistance for several years...
Sayed Hassan Nasrallah: Sure.
Journalist: ... and especially Hezbollah. That is why some say that the Hezb drowned or was drowned in the Isis nebula fight, the Sunni-Shiite question, and so on. This is the game they are playing: at first Israel is quiet, and after resting, it will throw itself on the Resistance, that Zionist enemy.
Sayed Hassan Nasrallah: No... Look, on this question, the spell turns against the sorcerer, God willing. The spell turns against the sorcerer. Now, for example, look at the Israeli discourse: first, whether Israel or all the others (at its side), they exaggerate a lot when they talk about the number of our Martyrs in Syria. There are really comic exaggerations.
Journalist: On purpose?
Sayed Hassan Nasrallah: Excuse me?
Journalist: On purpose?
Sayed Hassan Nasrallah: On purpose, yes. Well, at one point, they said that Hezbollah, we will drain it, drown it, kill it, etc., etc., in Syria. Well, now what does Israel say?
As a result, it says that Hezbollah gains experiences that it had never had since its foundation to this day, it has earned them. The most important thing that worries Israel, what is it? It is not the defensive experience and the defensive war, because from 1982 to 2000, until 2006, Hezbollah was in a defensive movement. Even our tactics were defensive tactics. We did not attack colonies or enter Palestinian territory. Before 2000, we were attacking [Israeli] positions in Lebanon. Even attacking such and such a position, even if they were offensive operations in appearance, but they took place in a defensive setting.
Well, when Hezbollah comes into the battle in Syria, and fights like a very large formation, and with very diverse armaments, or as part of a very great training in armaments, and participates in offensive operations, and expels armed men, who are not normal combatants, especially foreigners, fighters with such a level of committment, when it kicks them out of very vast geographic expanses, this means that Hezbollah gains an offensive experience, a vast experience of liberating territory through continuous and direct military operations, and not through the guerrilla warfare. And this experience was not present in Hezbollah before the War in Syria.
This is where Israel is frightened and terrified. Because what Hezbollah does in Syria, if a war comes against it, it will do it in Galilee. This means that the promise of Galilee, which is of course a conditional promise, because some say it is an absolute promise, (no), it is a conditional promise. I said, “The day may come when the direction of the Resistance will ask [its fighters] to enter Galilee.” And that day may come. And the Resistance may ask for it. I do not change any letter in my statement. Well, if God forbid, a war took place, and Hizballah leadership decided to enter Galilee, these are soldiers who have not only trained themselves in this kind of war, but they will have practiced this war for years...
Journalist: Against all nationalities...
Sayed Hassan Nasrallah: ...and it will have cadres. Perhaps at least the soldier, the one who designed this strategy (launching Isis against the Resistance), now thinks, “If only we had not mounted this story from beginning to end.”
You know, Mrs Kawthat, in this story, in training, you can practice as much as you want, and when you make massive maneuvers with heavy weapons, artillery fire, and attacks of regiments, brigades and battalions, the result is a result of training. But as for the forces that are going to participate in the fighting, real combat, with martyrs, wounded, suffering, dangers, real bombing and a real liberation of territory, this experience is not only an experience. Will, determination, confidence, breaking down psychological obstacles, prestige, level of courage... [They are real]
That is why the Syrian trial, if we arrived, with God's permission, at a reasonable and proper conclusion in Syria, how will Hezbollah emerge from this battle? It will emerge... If it emerged from the July 2006 war as a regional power, it will emerge from this war as a genuine military power representing a force for the liberation of territory not (only) in guerrilla warfare, but even in a war that much resembles classical wars (between national armies).
On this point, no, Israel is indeed frightened, not reassured. It is apparently happy [to show off] for the eyes of others, but it is frightened about the consequences of this situation, of which it is not known whether they will be in the interests of the United States.
Journalist: All their calculations were wrong.
Sayed Hassan Nasrallah: Yes.